One
has the very distinct feeling
Joaquin Phoenix would rather be doing anything but another press junket.
Swaggering into interview, dressed in head-to-toe
black and fumbling desperately to light a cigarette, Phoenix looks
exhausted, virtually
pretending to be drunk, before reluctantly sitting down to face the typical
barrage of questions. He makes no bones about how 'over
it' he is and admits we journalists don't get off
lightly. "I know you guys have it rough. All
I do is come in for three days and then I piss off."
Phoenix
is referring to the fleeting few days he's spent at the Toronto Film Festival
where our interview takes place. This is his
umpteenth one-on-one for the day so he has good reason to be feeling
rather out of sorts.
"I
don't mind doing print interviews," he admits. "What I really hate
doing is TV — twelve interviews in an hour
pretending to be oh-so-fresh, which I'm
clearly not, as you can see," the actors says half-smiUngly.
The
reason 26-year-old Phoenix is talking to me again, is because of a nifty little
film noir he's starring in called The Yards. In
it, he and Mark Wahtberg
play two young guns who get caught up in a socio-political scandal involving
the mob and the New York transit system. The periods may be different, but the
traits of his latest character are not too distant from those
of his classic role in Gladiator [he played
Emperor Commodus opposite
Russell Crowe's
General Maximus], in
both films, Phoenix's roles gravitate to the dark side, whether he likes the
definition or not.
"I
hate it when people
put that label, on a
film, that it's dark. I don't know what that means.
What people call dark, to me actually
makes it more interesting. I think the characters are really
complex and ambiguous in The Yards. I don't think that, for James (Gray,
director), things are black and white; good and evil; dark and light. I think
that his films are all these things. The world is complex. Other people might
see black and white, but I see a tot of colours. I've tried to find all parts of
the person that I'm playing in my films, and to
understand what Leads them to the place where we find them in the film."
Interestingly,
for The Yards, Phoenix was originally offered Mark Wahlberg's
more heroic character to play, but felt the role he ultimately chose was the
more challenging of the two.
"I
was involved with the film for at least two years
prior to shooting, when Inventing The Abbotts
and To Die For had only just been released. When I
first read the script, I thought the Leo [Wahlberg's] character would be too
easy for me. I knew exactly what the notes were,
whereas the other character's arc I thought was
amazing. The reason being is that he's not as straightforward as
he seems. It seems like he's on top of the world and that he has everything, but
it's all a facade, and trying to play that was far more interesting for
me." The young protagonists in The Yards
are scheming, upwardly-mobile
types
who initially stand out of the Gen-X crowd, but
who ultimately get bogged down with more troubles than any Gen-X-er
around them is experiencing. Phoenix explains:
"It's
clear in the film that there is no familial support, without it being shoved
down your throat Like you might find in flashbacks
in other films. These guys are part of a really
misguided generation: a generation with divorced parents,
and one that doesn't have support from their parents. [Hence] the characters
create their own moral code and make serious errors in judgment."
It's
all quite the antithesis to Phoenix's real life.
Although his now-famous parents are divorced, the actor grew up in a warm,
loving, hippy household with four siblings.
He is still extremely close to his family.
Joaquin,
who used to go by the name Leaf, is the Phoenix middle child. His brother River,
who died of a drug overdose in 1993, would have been 30 this year. His sister
Rain is 27, Liberty is 23 and Summer is 22. Their parents,
John Bottom and Arlyn Dunetz,
changed their legal surname to Phoenix and raised a family of actors and
mostly chainsmoking vegans. Life is full of contradictions.
Staying
true to his revised surname. Joaquin has made a career out of a couple of
successful first films, then disappeared for a few years, only to rise out of
the ashes to greater glory. For a long time, the actor worked in the shadow of
River. After River's tragic death, Leaf abandoned his career for two years, then
dropped the greenie-sounding moniker and made a
comeback in 1995's To Die For, as Nicole Kidman's
weather mistress's under-age fling. Directed by Gus
Van Sant [who ironically directed River in his
first and last big movies: My Own Private Idaho and Even Cowgirls
Get The Blues, respectively], To Die For was
the flick that kicked off a long line of noir
roles for Joaquin.
"When
I turned 18, I just became interested in the work
again," he tells. "I guess I'd grown as an individual and as a human,
and I felt that there were things I wanted to express."
Getting
back on the audition trail wasn't difficult, as
countless directors had been begging
to have him play prime roles
in their films, and,
"for the sake of getting my chops back and getting into the groove of
auditioning again" Joaquin attended plenty
of casting calls.
"Auditioning
is a whole different style of acting," he says. "I'd go in and read
for stuff like Lassie Comes Home — all these dog
and whale movies."
For
a while, it seemed as though the hippy-esque Leaf
image was coming back to haunt him. "I thought, 'god.
this is going nowhere'. Then I
read To Die For and
loved it."
Joaquin
Phoenix is a nomad in the sincerest sense of
the word. He has no fixed abode ("I'm looking
for somewhere, so if you know of something, let me know").
And these days he's not even sure which country to call home ("I
was living in New York, then Gladiator came
up, and I was living in Europe"].
He did at one stage live with Liv Tyler
for three years, and gives more than the hint that he wouldn't mind settling
like that again some day soon. "I seem to wander around without any real
residence, but the truth is
that
I want a steady relationship and a home and all
that. It just hasn't happened yet," he sighs with slight reluctance.
Joaquin
goes on to talk about being a vegetarian ("I
have been since age seven"), saying that
although vegan food has improved over the past few years, some of the stricter
vegan ethos has caused hiccups in his entertainment career. One example was when
doing a modelling gig for Prada where he had to
reject wearing the label's leather goods.
"I
did the Prada campaign, but the stylist wore the shoes,"
he insists. "They did a separate shot of the
shoes and it wasn't me wearing them."
Young
Joaquin may be homeless at the moment, but the
work is still coming in thick and fast. We'll next see him starring opposite
Kate Winslet in the sexual drama Quills, which
features the pair in "the toughest and most
unusual sex scene I've ever done", reveals
the boy who's probably already done too much. Paul
Fischer